Tuesday, March 7, 2017

How Many Holy Books?

we were born into a world with numerous religions. If english is your home-language you are likely more familiar with christianity than other faiths and may find eastern religions EXOTIC and tempting.
most families teach their kids which religion is TRUTH as the parents see it, saying: "believe there is a god and santa claus and tooth fairy" and later admit that is not truth.
Jews publish a book=volume with twenty-six 26 books inside insisting that they are 24 books  and offer several "solutions" to this problem. christianity has more letters/epistles and catholic has more total.
if we do not know what is inside, it is easy to lie=accept the lie "it is so consistent it must be from god" or "I heard there are many contradictions and hence not a basis for any faith" or "I know one quote that is the truth and I do not care if you claim another quote conflicts."
clearly the bible says you must have faith to the end or clearly the bible says if you abandon faith you are still saved?
prejudices like these can cause people to interpret both ways. when a christian insists that the third hour and the ninth hour mean "the same thing" jesus !! how can that be? that is required by the prejudice of consistency and if they did not have the prejudice they would say two versions were included. some claim it was between the two times not 6 nor 9! so both are false numbers for the hour. is that a faith based on a holy book? only if numbers and truth are not important.
one approach is the one which protestant leader responded to the traditional catholic book list: take out the bad ones. he could have said compile a new list only the best are good enough to get the "holy" label. if ancient lists such as origen and eusebius had fewer books then do not add more books to the holy list.
if we do not corrupt content, then "what appears" in some books, especially the word "no" helps us identify the problems in other books.
the order is influential. if first we teach a child that god wants blood sacrifice- then IF they ever read jeremiah and isaia...
***which is not likely,
they will interpret it in a way that the first idea is true. they will claim and be taught that the "message" in those prophets "different" from words and from the message which appears. as the rapist said "no does not really mean no."
what if we reverse the order?
god said no: I did not desire blood+I did not command sacrifices, unbelievable, these are messages which do appear in isiah and jeremiah- if we do not corrupt the message.
if assume god exists then god is informing us to avoid certain books which CLAIM the opposite. having both groups in the same volume is very STUPID. if i believe the message in jeremia then that warns me not to accept the books claimed to be from mose- which claim "god did".
which should a person choose? a. god did and jeremia said a false message which needs to be corrupted different from what appears?
they could take jeremia out of the list! 25 books, but still isaia has a similar message.
**b.  if we assume god exists he sent two prophets to convince people he did not [past] want blood sacrifice. this idea is a threat to both rabbinic judaism and all christianity.
If i were god and people said in my name "god did not want sacrifice" when I did, i would send a prophet after them and warn ignore isaia  and keep my temple with miracles because i want it.
or the opposite
***if people are killing animals and i do not want it... what would god do? send a message? he sent isia and jeremia who both said,  "i did not command nor desire" that is what happened they brought this later message to avoid the earlier one.
if god exists then accept the later message and stop rebelling!
what if Isaia brought the correct message to resist the books "of moses" that is why god bothered to send two. prejudice influences people that  the fundamentals of faith must guide the interpretation but what if the book would define the faith!
without prejudice either way is possible and EITHER WAY THERE SHOULD BE LESS of those  so-called holy books.
if I assume god exists then god showed urgency to send a common message to two prophets and hence any book that has sacrifices such as exodus, a book with a sacrifice claimed to be commanded by god and similarly leviticus and numbers and deuteronomy are all FOREWARNED  BY GOD HIMSELF in isaia and jeremia to avoid. can you then stack and say the majority of prophets outnumber isaia?
 if it is false take isaia off the list but isaia is in the list so the message is a good message if so better to avoid=fix the earlier tradition and any other conflicting book is not godly divine but an unholy lie. what is false? the later message warned do not accept the traditional faith you were born into. god tried to fix a problem but religious leaders insist on altering the message to preserve a tradition which god tried to correct and fix.
other issues such as order and other bad books- not with the prejudice "they are holy nor bad" but based on recognizing "what appears" in the book without corrupting the message- will follow.

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